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In this discussion Limnell and Pylkk\u00e4nen explore how creativity and freedom can be understood in the Bohmian physical universe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/event\/beyond-bohm-2022-2\/\">To see the Full Beyond Bohm Program<\/a><\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"247\" src=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Petteri-photo-300x247.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36965\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Petteri-photo-300x247.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Petteri-photo-600x493.jpg 600w, https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Petteri-photo.jpg 736w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Petteri Limnell<\/strong> lives in Pori, Finland. He was awarded his Master\u2019s in philosophy in 2008, from the University of Tampere, Finland. The subject of his thesis was about the moment NOW\u2014the \u2018Analysis of the present Moment from the Perspectives of Physics, Metaphysics and Consciousness Studies.\u2019 His BA thesis was about creativity: \u2018Paul Feyerabend\u2019sFarewell to Personal Creativity.\u2019 &nbsp;Limnell teaches two ongoing courses at the Pori municipality Center, and has worked as a consultant, teacher, tutor and in-house philosopher at the Pori Art Museum. He also works for the Critical College of Finland and runs the Satakunta Critical College in Pori. I have been President of the Pori Philosophical Society for 11 years, since the very beginning. His main interests in philosophy relate to three of Popper\u2019s \u2018emergent\u2019 worlds. Why and how do the universe, life and human beings and consciousness exist? It all ultimately culminates in Kant\u2019s three questions: \u2018What can I know?,\u2019 \u2018What should I do?,\u2019 and \u2018What can I hope for?\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Paavo-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10626\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Paavo-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Paavo-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Paavo-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Paavo.png 451w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Paavo Pylkk\u00e4nen,<\/strong> Ph.D., is Senior Lecturer in Theoretical Philosophy and Director of the Bachelor\u2019s Program in Philosophy at the&nbsp;University of Helsinki, Finland. He is also Associate Professor of Theoretical Philosophy (currently on leave) at the Department of Cognitive Neuroscience and Philosophy, University of Sk\u00f6vde, Sweden, where he initiated a Consciousness Studies Programme. His main research areas are philosophy of mind, philosophy of physics and their intersection. In his book <em>Mind, Matter and the Implicate Order<\/em> (Springer) he proposed that new notions emerging from quantum physics (especially Bohm and Hiley\u2019s interpretation) provide new ways of approaching key problems in philosophy of mind, such as mental causation and time consciousness. &nbsp;In 2018-2020 working as the Vice Dean of Research at the Faculty of Arts he had the main responsibility for developing the new profiling area Mind and Matter for the University of Helsinki <a href=\"https:\/\/www2.helsinki.fi\/en\/mind-and-matter\">https:\/\/www2.helsinki.fi\/en\/mind-and-matter<\/a>. 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