{"id":36979,"date":"2022-06-24T13:19:02","date_gmt":"2022-06-24T11:19:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/?post_type=tribe_events&#038;p=36979"},"modified":"2025-04-17T13:08:34","modified_gmt":"2025-04-17T11:08:34","slug":"why-bohm-was-never-a-determinist","status":"publish","type":"tribe_events","link":"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/event\/why-bohm-was-never-a-determinist\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Bohm was Never a Determinist"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group date-and-venue has-yellow-white-background-color has-background has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-13b1d0ed wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:1rem;margin-bottom:1rem;padding-top:1rem;padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);padding-bottom:1rem;padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30)\"><div  class=\"tribe-events-schedule tribe-clearfix\" >\n\t<p class=\"tribe-events-schedule__datetime\">\n\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__date tribe-events-schedule__date--start\">\n\t\t\tAugust 27, 2022\t\t<\/span>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__separator tribe-events-schedule__separator--date\">\n\t\t\t\t @ \t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__time tribe-events-schedule__time--start\">\n\t\t\t\t6:00 pm\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__separator tribe-events-schedule__separator--time\">\n\t\t\t\t\t &#8211; 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autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/m16j7dcsipo?si=VITcDJ5I7JuVg8-i\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/m16j7dcsipo?si=VITcDJ5I7JuVg8-i<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:60%\">\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"line-height:1.3\">Why Bohm was Never a Determinist<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>with&nbsp;<span lang=\"EN-US\">Marij van Strien<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Saturday August 27, 2022<\/strong><br>9:00 PDT | 12:00 EDT | 17:00 BST &nbsp;| &nbsp;18:00 CEST<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left wp-block-paragraph\">2-hour session<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The session is live and you will be sent the RECORDING.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">David Bohm\u2019s theory of quantum mechanics is mostly known as a way to give a fully deterministic account of quantum mechanics. For this reason, it has often been thought that Bohm\u2019s aim was to restore the determinism of classical physics, and he has been criticized as conservative and unwilling to accept the radical implications of quantum physics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, although the interpretation of quantum mechanics which Bohm proposed in 1953 does indeed have the feature of being deterministic, for Bohm this was never the main point. In other texts which he published shortly before and after, he argued that the assumption that nature is deterministic is unjustified, and modified his interpretation to give a role to pure chance. His aim was a different one: to develop an intuitively understandable theory of quantum mechanics. This talk will explore the aims and philosophical commitments which motivated Bohm\u2019s work in physics, and argue that the role of determinism in debates about quantum physics has generally been exaggerated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/event\/beyond-bohm-2022-2\/\">To see the Full Beyond Bohm Program<\/a><\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"277\" src=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Marij-photo-300x277.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36980\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Marij-photo-300x277.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paricenter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Marij-photo.jpg 562w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Marij van Strien<\/strong> is a postdoctoral researcher at the Bergische Universit\u00e4t Wuppertal. After studying physics and history and philosophy of science at Utrecht University, she obtained a PhD at Ghent University. 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